Posts by Bungi Bill

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Are there 'ultra strict' congregations?

by jambon1 in

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when i studied as a young adult, it was in one of those congregations.

having viewed the religion as a quaint little band of christians it conpletely dumbfounded me when i was told about such rules as 1 - no beards.

2 - you must wear a suit to meetings and while giving a talk.

Bungi Bill

The JW's prohibition on beards is enforced just as rigidly in those countries where it is commonplace to see bearded men about in the community.

One such example is Papua New Guinea, where many - perhaps even most - men wear beards. They are certainly common in public life; most of the countries top business and professional men wear full beards, as have a number of their recent prime ministers.

It makes no difference to the JWs, though. When a man comes "Into The Truth", then off comes the beard!

If ever there was a purely man-made rule, this would have to be it.

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If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

by stuckinarut2 in

as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

Bungi Bill

Yer right .......... you are a bloody Troll!

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If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

by stuckinarut2 in

as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

Bungi Bill

when they realize what a terrible world they have been born into.

But is it , though?

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JW Double Standards and Hypocrisy in the Congregation!!!

by Christian Gutierrez in

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i am sure you have stories as well of elders being a hard ass on many, yet turning a blind eye to the 'sins' of their own family or close connections.

cheers everyone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gma1auaur2o.

Bungi Bill

To all too many JWs, a drinking problem means "two hands and only one mouth"!

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If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

by stuckinarut2 in

as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

Bungi Bill

I still reckon that the Age of Enlightenment / Age of Reason had more impact for the better than religion ever did. Christians may have had the advantage of the New Testament and its "Gospel of Peace", but it did not always do them a lot of good.

The irony of this was not missed on "Heathens"; a parody of the hymn "Onward Christain Soldiers" reads as follows:

Onward Christian soldiers, into Heathen lands,

Prayer books in your pockets, rifles in your hands.

Bring the happy tidings, where trade might be done.

Spread the Peaceful Gospel, with your Maxim Gun.

Firearms buffs will recognise the Maxim Gun as the world's first automatically firing machine gun. During the late 19th and early 20th Centuries, it was the Weapon of Mass Destruction, and the Eurpoean colonial powers made widespread use of it to "pacify" the "savages" of Asia and Africa.

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Even if it's not the truth, it's still the best way to live

by Simon in

how many times did you hear that gem?

it often went along with "the truth is a protection" which is their way of saying "living a moral life is good for you ... and you can't do that without us".. but think about what people are really saying.

i think the real message is "i know it's not the truth, but i chose to follow it anyway".. it seems like a pre-emptive argument because they know they can't defend it as "the truth" so instead they switch to defending it as a lifestyle.. of course any kind of lifestyle that has a decent moral ingredient to it, respect for law and order, discipline etc... probably increases people's chances of doing better in life, but they don't have a monopoly on it.. so just remember, next time you hear someone saying "even if it's not the truth" what they are really admitting is that they already know it isn't..

Bungi Bill

All I can say is that if the JW way of life is the "best" one, I would hate to see the worst one!

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If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

by stuckinarut2 in

as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

Bungi Bill

Oh yes, we are definitely becoming worser!

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If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

by stuckinarut2 in

as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

Bungi Bill

Very good point.

The JWs certainly present a very skewed view of "The World", and anybody growing up solely under the influence of their propaganda would come with a similarly skewed outlook on things.

Instead, a lot of credit needs to go to such phases as the Age of Reason / Age of Enlightenment, and to scientific acheivements such as the "Green Revolution."

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Do You Recall WT radio Dramas? (PSA's about 13 min)

by Wasanelder Once in

in the 1960's and early 70's there were wt dramas on subjects of morality sent to radio stations to fulfill their required block of religious broadcasts.

the familiar voices are there in the dramas.

do you remember them?

Bungi Bill

This is the first I have ever heard of these things!

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When did the Iron Age start according to the Bible? You'll be surprised!

by Crazyguy in

read this over at reddit so the credit goes to the person over there but in genesis 4:22 it's say one of the offspring of adam knew how to work with iron roughly 130 years after the creation of man.

now historians and scientists say man didn't figure out how to use iron until about 1100 bc, man we're we wrong!

it's also interesting that cain is building a city when there like 10 people on the planet and nimrod goes on to build the tower of babel only about 100 year after the flood.

Bungi Bill

Good old Tubal Cain, "ancestor of all who work iron" - and writer of a regular column in the Model Engineer (UK) magazine!

The use of iron did not happen simultaneously across all the ancient civilisations. Amongst the first to use iron cutting implements were the Celtic peoples of North Western Eurpoe, who were by no means at the forefront of civilisation (The Celtic peoples included the ancient Britons, and also the Gauls of France - all of whom the Romans would have unequivocally classified as "barbarians").